davisadm

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Los Angeles
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Message Posted: May 11, 2013 5:01:43 PM
The 1980's VW Rabbits and pickups got 50 MPG
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MertieMan

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Lexington
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Message Posted: May 10, 2013 5:24:18 AM
My, aren't you the thrifty little elf. Most people don't have time for foolishness such as this.
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Jmac2008

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Missouri
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Message Posted: May 10, 2013 1:18:39 AM
I don't believe that it is possible.
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giwan

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Michigan
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Message Posted: May 9, 2013 1:37:05 PM
Hmmm so the EPA shows a 35mpg highway but magically you over 50mpg. Not buying it
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pilotmass

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Boston
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Message Posted: May 9, 2013 12:32:08 PM
Don't tell the politicians. They want to tax super economical cars more!
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streetirsx

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North Dakota
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Message Posted: May 9, 2013 11:01:01 AM
Awesone. that's my goal for my next trip 50+ on a full tank
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OilerFan

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Tulsa
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Message Posted: Apr 2, 2013 7:20:04 PM
Very good.
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lyanMI

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Detroit
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Message Posted: Apr 2, 2013 9:38:06 AM
Good.
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giwan

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Michigan
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Message Posted: Apr 1, 2013 10:37:03 AM
No way unless you made changes, dropped weight and had a wind advantage.
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Ryan456789

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Milwaukee
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Message Posted: Mar 31, 2013 1:32:38 PM
So.... let's say you normally get 40mpg @ 70mph
And 350 miles would cost you $35 @ $4/gal Your trip took you 5 hours
Then you got 50mpg @ 55mph
And 350 miles would cost you $28 @ $4/gal Your trip took you 6.3 hours
So you saved $7 but spent 1.3 hours more?
Not worth my time, I make more than $5.39/hour, rather get to my destination (typically work) faster. Of course with safety and laws still in mind.
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Jef4ers

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Dayton
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Message Posted: Mar 25, 2013 3:39:26 PM
Thanks mnrick!
Jef4ers, to answer your question, my Fusion is a 6. I have around 15,300 miles on it now, vast majority of that has been city driving. My mother has a Grand Marquis with a V8 and she thinks she gets better MPG than I do and I think she is right.
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chuckl95453

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California
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Message Posted: Mar 24, 2013 1:38:52 PM
In 2007 I bought a new focus and the round trip to work was about 24 miles. Driving slowly I only got about 24 mpg and about 32mpg on a long 200 mile trip. Going to work was about 80% clear freeway and 20% clear city driving. Disappointed with the MPG'S, sticker was 27 city and 34 or 37 highway.
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MertieMan

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Lexington
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Message Posted: Mar 24, 2013 8:43:36 AM
Well good for you, but the rest of us don't have that much time to play with it like you do.
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Banjoe

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Winnipeg
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Message Posted: Mar 24, 2013 7:34:23 AM
Good points mnrick041. I drive Twin City streets only in the good weather seasons and usually well out of rush hour times. Still, the continually flow impresses me as Winnipeg loves a good set of stop lights every 300 feet because we all know that when no one moves, no one gets hurt. I can understand your winter woes especially if you don't live on a 'chosen' street so rarely see a snow plow. We have great plow service that takes care of back lanes after snow falls but I don't have a lane so usually see the plow long after our street has finally been packed down and is once again usable.
I think we can agree that summer (or anytime in Arizona) driving is far, far better than travel in the white season.
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mnrick041

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Message Posted: Mar 23, 2013 7:39:08 PM
Actually Banjoe, it depends on where I am getting the information and what data they use to define their ranking but the Twin Cities has been rated by different sources as being one of the top 10 worst cities when it comes to traffic congestion. Other sources say we are not doing so bad here. Ever drive 494 on a weekday?
Excellent roadways? I guess that depends upon the time of year and what city you are driving in. Some of the suburbs might have their streets excellently cleared of snow from curb to curb but there are other areas where you are lucky to have enough room for two cars to pass each other halfway through the winter. They do their best with the resources that they have, it is just frustrating sometimes.
Jef4ers, to answer your question, my Fusion is a 6. I have around 15,300 miles on it now, vast majority of that has been city driving. My mother has a Grand Marquis with a V8 and she thinks she gets better MPG than I do and I think she is right.
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Jef4ers

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Dayton
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Message Posted: Mar 23, 2013 1:41:48 PM
Can you share mnrick, whether your Fusion is a 4 0r a 6?
Most cars require driving on a somewhat unobstructed interstate for 100 to 200 miles to enable the ECM to learn and adjust to the higher speed and conditions.
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Banjoe

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Winnipeg
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Message Posted: Mar 23, 2013 7:52:10 AM
mnrick041 - surprising to hear that Minneapolis has such a poor ranking. I've always enjoyed the excellent roadways in the area.
Driving in Arizona certainly sounds a lot better than the winter ice & snow stuff you're used to. With those warm winter driving conditions, I don't think I'd even worry about mileage, or winter clothes, or window scrapers, or block heaters, or winter tires, or extension cords, or the rest of the white winter silliness.
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mnrick041

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Twin Cities
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Message Posted: Mar 23, 2013 6:05:07 AM
That is impressive seeing that I have a 2012 Fusion that I have kept track of since the first tank of fuel I put into it. The best tank ever was 26.58 MPG, 2nd best was 25.44 MPG. Those were tanks of mostly highway driving.
Most of the rest of my driving however is done in the city, Minneapolis is ranked as having some of the worst traffic in the nation. We also get extreme cold weather and we have winter blend fuel. All of that for me contributes to a average MPG of 18.42 so far this year with the 2012 Fusion.
The MPG display in the information center display throws out all kinds of numbers, high ones when I am coasting and low ones when I am stuck in slow traffic but overall the MPG I get from this car (I do not really blame the car, it is the driving environment) sucks.
[Edited by: mnrick041 at 3/23/2013 6:11:19 AM EST]
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beachd8

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Orange County
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Message Posted: Mar 22, 2013 1:36:49 PM
Oh, and the right lane had rigs driving 50-55 mph while the left lane was moving at 75 - 85 mph.
Do Prius lack turning indicators? The drivers sure don't use them!
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beachd8

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Orange County
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Message Posted: Mar 22, 2013 1:35:02 PM
On a recent 3k mile road trip, half of which was driving across Texas, I observed an unusually high rate of Prius drivers cutting off others. They used the left lane as a "passing lane". They drove in the right hand lane, chased the car in front of them, tailgated for awhile, then suddenly merged into the left lane dangerously close to cars already in the left lane. They did not accelerate to the speed of cars in the left lane, so everyone in the left lane had to hit their brakes. Then they drove alongside the vehicle that they were "passing" for miles and miles . . . eventually pulling ahead & getting into the right lane again. Given that this was on roads with only 2 lanes, it was both frustrating & dangerous. Why the prevalence of this behavior among Prius drivers? There aren't many Prius on the road compared to other vehicles.
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redx590

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New Jersey
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Message Posted: Mar 17, 2013 12:56:40 PM
awesome
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Jef4ers

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Dayton
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Message Posted: Mar 9, 2013 1:29:33 PM
"That;s nothing. 30% of the F250 owners arond here swear they can do a round trip of 300 miles on $10 worth of gas." LOL
Herbie I believe the figures are $30 gas for 10 miles sworn to by 300% of them.
Most those guys need to get a calculator and save their reciepts!
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Banjoe

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Winnipeg
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Message Posted: Mar 9, 2013 9:25:03 AM
herbiepopnecker - I actually believe that you can get better than that mileage in half of BC.
The other half, which is all up hill, is a completely different story.
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herbiepopnecker

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British Columbia
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Message Posted: Mar 8, 2013 11:35:39 PM
That;s nothing. 30% of the F250 owners arond here swear they can do a round trip of 300 miles on $10 worth of gas.
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Z12

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Toledo
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Message Posted: Mar 8, 2013 9:20:52 PM
Nice
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drydem

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Maryland
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Message Posted: Feb 25, 2013 7:28:00 AM
In a highway driving environment, hybrid tech is not as significant as aerodynamics ( small frontal surface, low Cd), speed (under 55 mph), curb weight(under 2000 pounds) , how long you are driving ( >60 minutes per trip), and driving skills/technique (hypermiling skills: Driving with Load).
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Jef4ers

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Dayton
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Message Posted: Feb 24, 2013 2:31:18 PM
The Focus that we drove did indicate 45MPG but was actually a little high when calculated but still good and the car rode better than the Civic or other 'imports'. Just for info the 3cyl Metro used so little fuel that we had to drain the tank or the fuel got stale!
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OilerFan

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Message Posted: Feb 24, 2013 10:57:36 AM
Glad to hear it. Now if only they'd make one that can comfortably seat 5 for a 10 hour trip and have trunk space adequate.
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Banjoe

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Winnipeg
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Message Posted: Feb 24, 2013 9:21:13 AM
Excellent high mileage effort efbld2f, but it seems that you are upsetting a few high mileage/hour folks with your 'foolish' antics.
I fully support your ambition but be careful out there with road vigilantes who get to dictate how you should be driving on their roads.
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the1roadhog

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Atlanta
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Message Posted: Feb 24, 2013 9:00:32 AM
Bad to the bone MPG
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Hemond

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Providence
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Message Posted: Feb 23, 2013 3:01:47 PM
I had a Focus rental this past October for a trip from Reno to Bend Oregon. Most of it on Oregon Rt 97. That Focus got 42 mpg with no effort at economy on my part. I've had Focus rentals before. This latest model is not quite as peppy as earlier models but has a far better transmission. I'll take the trade off of slightly less oomph for better mileage and the slick transmission. Also the exterior body is superb, really slick. Interior is kinda plasticy though. If considering a Focus try to upgrade the cabin materials if possible.
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xtremecheap

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Arkansas
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Message Posted: Feb 23, 2013 12:27:59 PM
You slowed down to 55? I didn't know that they would go over 55. J/K Was this actual MPG or was it what the car's MPG meter displayed? Did you have the wind at your back? Anyways, that's great mileage. Congrats.
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gas_phil

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Sacramento
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Message Posted: Feb 23, 2013 11:59:09 AM
That 50.7 is awesome!!
ummmm... is that a 3-cylinder or 2-cylinder car?? just kidding ok :D That's a great gas mileage!!
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metalhat73

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Wilmington
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Message Posted: Feb 23, 2013 9:23:12 AM
SFE Focus package I heard can get near 50MPG on flat highway with no headwind. Still 50.7 is amazing. Ford should do a hybrid version of this ford and crush the prius.
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WES03

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Maryland
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Message Posted: Feb 23, 2013 6:50:14 AM
Just got 41MPG on my Focus (actual measured). Highway driving, flat terrain, standard trans.
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GrumpyCat

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Alabama
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Message Posted: Feb 14, 2013 1:06:56 PM
The display on the Fool Computer is not trustworthy. Based on my Ford experience your 50.7 will be 40 to 45 MPG with a calculator.
OTOH the Prius is pretty good. Its usually 2 MPG high at 50 MPG but I've never found another as accurate.
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traffic cop

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Boston
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Message Posted: Feb 14, 2013 10:24:34 AM
My dream car (outside, say, the Audi8L or a Bentley) is the manual six-speed Euro-spec Focus with the 1.6 turbo. In the 5-door hatch. Interestingly, it's faster than the 2.0L.
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sagnat

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Riverside
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Message Posted: Feb 13, 2013 1:04:01 PM
Is that figure according to the onboard computer or via hand calculation of miles/gallons? The computers tend to be optimistic to overly optimistic and the only way to tell true MPG is by doing your own math.
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dgsteven

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Los Angeles
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Message Posted: Feb 13, 2013 3:04:28 AM
no way
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yakli

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Victoria
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Message Posted: Jul 29, 2011 5:27:45 PM
Is this real?
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CoolPriusGuy

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Detroit
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Message Posted: Jul 28, 2011 8:37:53 PM
"you are zipping along at 100MPH ?"
I was cruisin' along at 112 MPH last week!
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CactusBobs

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Phoenix
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Message Posted: Jul 28, 2011 2:34:32 AM
Hemond wrote:"I don't know, I've been in traffic in Arizona and New Mexico where we were zipping along at 100 mph. They drive real fast out in the mountain west states. Even those in the 'slow' lane wing it.".......... how true ! 90-100 mph is normal for left lane traffic , right lane is 75 or higher all the time .....the posted limit is 65 but nobody cares , who's going to stop you ? the police ? your 60 miles from the next town , no cell service . your in no mans land . some one pulls a gun on the poor cop and even if he calls for help it's a 1/2 hour before it comes .....so no stops happen and we drive 90 all the way ......that's just the way it is ........so 55 driver injoy your mpg while your still with us ......
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LanguageMan1

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Tampa
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Message Posted: Jul 28, 2011 12:24:53 AM
That's pretty good out of the Focus, and not altogether that hard to accomplish. However, I'd just modify it in addition to keeping the speed under 75 mpg and I know I'll get over 55 mpg out of it. Plus, I'll set up a hydrogen generator correctly and get over 60 mpg out of it no problem.
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tattoo666TX

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Texas
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Message Posted: Jul 27, 2011 4:37:05 PM
the hybrid may get great mileage in town under 45 mph, but not on the highway!!!
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bluebird1

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Toronto
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Message Posted: Jul 27, 2011 2:36:06 PM
Just shows you the best gas saver (or waster) is the one behind the wheel. Yes, I've coaxed 40+ mpg out of my Jeep lite & without adding an hr to the trip either.
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Hemond

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Providence
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Message Posted: Jul 27, 2011 2:13:23 PM
<<<hemond, you are zipping along at 100MPH ? What gas mileage did you get at that speed? What was the posted speed limit?>>> . . No idea what the mileage was...I'm sure it is not the best, what with wind resistance and all. As far as posted limit, hmmm, not sure, don't see too many signs, in fact you don't see too much of anything but open land. Exits are 30 miles apart or more. Nothing in between. The mountain west is a pretty open place.
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reb4

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Chicago
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Message Posted: Jul 27, 2011 1:09:39 PM
hemond, you are zipping along at 100MPH ? What gas mileage did you get at that speed? What was the posted speed limit?
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oilpan4

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Virginia
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Message Posted: Jul 27, 2011 1:03:03 PM
"New Mexico where we were zipping along at 100 mph". Heck yeah we do.
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Hemond

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Providence
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Message Posted: Jul 27, 2011 10:30:45 AM
<<<<probably didn't upset any people since he is driving in Arizona. Nice wide roads, people aren't in such a hurry and are much more considerate than those in Detroit; they simply switch lanes and go around.>>> . . I don't know, I've been in traffic in Arizona and New Mexico where we were zipping along at 100 mph. They drive real fast out in the mountain west states. Even those in the 'slow' lane wing it.
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KURTSUNCLE

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Columbus
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Message Posted: Jul 27, 2011 7:34:45 AM
interesting
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